The following are Joyner knighting quotes from PawCreek ministries, by Joe Chambers, from:
Important disclaimer: We have NO independent confirmation of the tape that these quotes come from. In other words, we have never heard the tapes ourselves. We have NO independent confirmation on any of these facts. However, we realize that these reports may have been one of the beginnings of questions regarding Rick Joyner's knighthood, and Joe Chambers is based in Charlotte near MorningStar Ministries. We reproduce his quotes from Joyner because they are mixed in on a very long "conspiracy theory" article which we do not necessarily agree with, and we have no idea when or if the URL will be take down or replaced. He has never contacted us and we have never contacted him.
...First, let’s read his account of that visit and about him meeting a Knight of Malta and hearing of their
interest to knight him.
"I was in Berlin with a man who is considered one of the foremost authorities on Nazi Germany, Colonel Eugene Byrd, who was the commandant of the Spandau prison, which housed all the war criminals after the war. And he’s the one who wrote the book, The Loneliest Man In The World, which was the memoirs of Rudolf Hess, who was Hitler’s number two man. And, Colonel Byrd had just taken myself and Paul Cain and a friend of ours on the most incredible tour of Berlin that day. And he had the greatest, I think, still has the greatest insight into what happened spiritually there. And, you know we went to Hitler’s bunker and we went all over the place and he just gave us a personal tour. (Joyner tells about Colonel Byrd being on Sixty Minutes.) And he gave Paul and I the same tour . . . It was one of the most fascinating days I have ever had in my life. And, uh, we were eating dinner (with Colonel Byrd), and I was saying and we’re talking all this stuff, and I said, ‘You ever heard of these Knights of Malta?’ And he said, ‘Well, I am one.’ And he pulls out his credentials. And he said, ‘You know, they still exist,’ and I knew they still existed ‘cause I had met a few around, but they are hardly known here, but they are known in Europe. And he said, ‘As matter of fact, this one knight, who is called a Knight Commander, has recommended you to be knighted and he’s looking for you now.’ I talked to him . . . They had been reading our journals and stuff like that and head of the order had been baptized in the Holy Spirit and wanted to see them become a spiritual force just like they had been a natural force . . . Colonel Byrd tells me this one guy, he was an Austrian Baron. He said, ‘He is looking for you. He’s already recommended you to be knighted.’" (Audio by Rick Joyner Ministries, no date on tape.)
...It’s overwhelming to listen as Rick Joyner tells the story of how he met the Austrian Baron that had
just come from Kurt Waldheim’s office to seek him out and conduct the knighting ceremony. Let’s read some detail of that...
"I’m sitting in the lobby (Nuremberg, Germany) with Bobby Conner and a few other people there and this guy comes walking in the lobby of the hotel who was an interesting looking guy. And Reed, who was Paul Cain’s assistant, was standing behind me. And he said, ‘Hey, there’s Newman Peyton.’ And this guy was Baron Newman Peyton, who Colonel Byrd had told me was looking for me. I said, ‘Reed, do you know that man.’ He said, ‘Oh, yeah, we met him years ago.’ And he came over, walked over to me, and said he had been looking to meet with me. And I stopped him right away. I said, ‘Bobby, give me a readout on this guy.’ And this guy’s going, ‘What’s a readout?’ (Laughter.) And Bobby goes, ‘Sir, when you came in I just saw something, I saw that you had just come from the office of a man named Kurt Waldheim . . .’ And his eyes got real big ’cause he had just come from his (Kurt Waldheim) office. And then he (Bobby Conner) said, ‘I saw you or I saw him opening this briefcase and giving you something out of it.’ And Bobby described the briefcase. And his eyes got real big then. He said, ‘This is incredible!’ He (Baron Peyton) said, ‘That is the only briefcase like that in the world. I had it custom made for Kurt Waldheim.’ And it was a weird thing Bobby had described."
(Morning Star Ministries, Rick Joyner audio, no date given.)
It’s extremely important to notice two things in this description by Rick Joyner. Upon this man Baron Newman Peyton entering the hotel lobby, Rick Joyner asked one of his companions to give him a "readout" on this man. A "readout" is another term for what they call a prophecy or better described as "fortune telling." These men are deep into sorcery as becomes clear in hearing this entire tape. Also, the man that Baron Newman Peyton had just visited and apparently represented in his approach to Rick Joyner is a notorious individual.
Kurt Waldheim is the recently retired President of Austria. He was also an officer in the Nazi army and "has been barred from entering the United States since 1987 as a suspected war criminal." (The Anti-Defamation League, 1999, A.T.L.) Kurt Waldheim was also recently knighted by the Pope, sparking the protest of many Jewish groups. Many believe he is guilty of atrocities against the Jewish people as well as British prisoners of war. The New Republic magazine stated that "the knighting (of Kurt Waldheim) also shows that the hatred of Jews is still no impediment to the esteem of the church (Catholic). Some say it was Waldheim’s only qualification." (The New Republic, September 5, 1994, V211N10, p. 50.).
Date sent: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:11:34 +0200
From: Intercessors Network <firstname.lastname@example.org>
To: Lars Widerberg <email@example.com>
Subject: A denial of holiness
The following article is generated by reports about a trend among
Christians in the U.S.
Some of you are perhaps not aware of the fact that I have been doing
thorough research into these regions of reality as a preparation for
victorious prayer warfare. We have been able to take out quite a few
strongholds through the years. And we praise the Lord for those
victories. He is the true warriorking!
The spirit of Camelot - a denial of holiness.
If someone preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received… you put up with it easily. 2 Cor 11:4.
Let us clarify and finish an issue once and for all. A Christian can be taken in by any spirit opposed to the Holy Spirit. Any Christian can do it by choice. Of course, such a Christian looses his genuine Christian identity and if he doesn’t back off from his choice, he eventually looses his position.
Any other spirit is an opposer to the sanctifier, the Holy Spirit. Any other spirit is a competitor, generating opposition and division. Any other spirit has spiritistic origin and brings false revelation. There is no spirit of any kind, of any name and brand that is allowed to share space and habitation with the Holy Spirit. One Spirit rules the Kingdom of God.
Intercession is the essence of the nature and role of the Royal Priesthood. Intercession brings its own kind of division - discernment, ability to divide right from wrong, ability to analyse and categorise spirituality. True spirituality avoids coexistence with products of counterfeit. Nothing can be mixed with or added to holiness.
At present time the title and the role of the Royal Priesthood is being happily and thoughtlessly exchanged for knighthood. The Holy Spirit is exchanged for the spirit of Camelot - a spirit ruling an old English castle, a familiar spirit. The charismatics, turned faith in Faith, turned all kinds of blessings, is now turning to the spirit of Camelot and are gladly receiving knighthood, becoming knights of the round table, knights of another king by the name of Arthur.
Arthur, if he existed at all, was a Celtic saviour-king in the early dark ages. He was the personification of Celtic opposition to Roman rule. He is supposed to have lived in a castle near Glastonbury, Somerset, a castle which the bards, the storytellers called Camelot. He gathered to him brave men and mystics, among whom he chose a handful dubbing them to knighthood, using a magically produced sword named Excalibur. The stories and tales about the warriorking was retold and retold, new material and fables were constantly added. William of Malmesbury and Geoffery of Monmouth edited and added even more. It is during the 11th century men like William started to write down the tales from the 5th and 6th century.
The 11th century is the century of romance, of the crusades and heroism in the name of Jesus Christ. The 11th century is the century of monasticism and mysticism. Bernard of Clairvaux wrote the rule for both the warriormonks, the Knights Templar and for the Cistercians. Both orders where obsessed with the sensual, worshipping the Mother of God rather than the Father.
At Camelot the quest began for anyone wanting to find the holy grail, an item, a vessel of some kind, carrying the essence of the mystery of life and death, of rebirth, of eternal security. The grail romances describes in vision after vision, in story after story the quest for the key to life. Searching for salvation, but no possibility of finding it. Overcoming death by cutting a covenant with death. The quest itself hailed as the meaning of life. Denial of the saviour, the only saviour, Jesus Christ.
The hunt, the quest is a race for the sensational, the otherworldly. It is obsession with passion and power, rather than character and holiness. The spirit of Camelot is the spirit of the mysterious and sensual, the mystery, the mystery Babylon. It is Jezebel dynamics. The one daring to risk his life searching but never finding becomes the hero, the ideal man. The deceived becomes the ideal. Denial of the existence of true truth.
Camelot is the castle of illusion, of fantasy. Camelot is an antichristian symbol. Camelot provokes achievement. "I am my own salvation" - an antichristian statement. The knight becomes the grail according to occult tradition, becomes the vessel of godhood. Man sees himself as saviour and god, ruling his own destiny. Denial of the Holy Spirit as the one instructing and guiding men into the whole truth, as the one being the protector of the future. Camelot is the castle of illusion, shapechanging - denial of true truth.
Arthur had a round table, a famous table where only the most prominent and exclusively chosen men gathered. The spirit of Camelot produces a sense of the extraordinary, of being special. Knighthood is, exclusiveness is a horrible illusion. Holiness is not an option. We have made it to be, and have lost the exclusiveness God has prepared for us - meant to be a peculiar people. Holiness according to God’s protocol or lost in a covenant with death. Choose today.
Arthur had a round table where the wise knights gathered. A "prophetic" gathering led by the jezebelic spirit of divination. We certainly need true prophets sitting down together in spiritual unity, in common attentiveness, waiting before the Lord, waiting to hear from the Lord. Camelot denies listening and the right to discern. Our Master Prophets allow themselves the right to release any type of spirit over any congregation. A side example is the Big Prophet at the Big Centre to the north, who released the spirit of Jeanne D’Arch, a lesbian terrorist and spiritist, over the gathered unprotected crowd who cheered the new wave of the river.
Knights and generals aim at superiority. They say together with the Jezebel spirit, "I, and no none else". Knights and generals go for position. "Let us make a name". Knights and generals deny the one name given; Jesus Christ. Intercessors, and Christians at large, are involved in an epic struggle in the end time against the Mystery Babylon. Intercessors are mobilised in special projects to encounter and counteract the dynamics and operations of principalities and powers. First in line is the spirit of mystery, Jezebel. It is a tremendous effort to take up the battle. To have any chance removing her from society, Christians must learn to back her off from their personal lives. It is fully possible to have another spirit than the Holy Spirit operating over ones life.
The attitude and position of knighthood is antichristian. Richard Wagner wrote his music, very suggestive music, under the influence of the spirit of Camelot. "Parsival" was a uniquely personal dramatisation of the grail romance. Hitler was left no doubt that Wagner was the supreme prophetic figure among the Germans. The manner in which Wagner had exalted the "Brotherhood of Knights" sharing a pure and noble blood had stirred him deeply, the historians say - and we know about the results.
Arthur, the ideal man, an illusion feeds thoughts on chivalry. Camelot is the spirit of comradeship, of men’s covenants for the sake of achievement and prosperity. Camelot is the secret world of brotherhood, of elitism. Edward III formed the Order of the Garter, inspired by the grail chivalry. Masons have their deep and strong roots in the same soil.
Arthur is supposed to have been buried in or near Glastonbury. The Glastonbury Tor is the Avalon of Arthur, the glass-island, the door to the otherworld. Glastonbury is a sacred place in churchianity and among occultists and newagers. Avalon is where Arthur rests, waiting for his time to come to return as a saviour and a heroic king. Arthur is an antichristian symbol. Avalon speaks subtly, "death is the ruler of the living". The spirit of Camelot speaks death over the living, fencing them off from eternal life. Camelot is an extraordinary manifestation of division.
Royalty is certainly a different attitude in comparison to a knight or a general. The Royal Priesthood is marked by having the mind of Christ. Gentle dignity. Righteous veracity. Holiness. The elitism of the nicolaitans exchanged for morally powerful servanthood. The hype of Jezebel exchanged for worship in spirit and in truth. The Camelot covenant with death and the eternal quest for the elusive illusions exchanged for the presence of the Father.
Intercessors, get together in prophetic colleges and wait until you have received a sword, a word from the Lord to cut off the soulties of knighthood and the magical influence of the sword of initiation to the spiritistic round table at Camelot.
(Jezebel Says) You can have what is not yours
by same author
(reproduced from an EPC mailing, date April, 2002)
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