Why have we come out ?
(contributed anonymously- Jan. 2001)
Most of us would bear the testimony that it was not of our own accord
that we left our structured fellowships or Institutional Churches as it
commonly called among those that have migrated to home based fellowships
far more modest fellowships in their various forms.
For some this is not the case as there are varied testimonies as to
have left; some for good reasons, some for selfish reasons, and some
for no apparent reason. However God is able to overcome us all so the reasons
not of great significance as in the days to come as prophesied in Malachi
3:18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the
between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.
This time spoken of and the process of its fulfillment I believe has
and that in coming years the contrast of the wicked and the just will
more easily discernible not by only the actions of the wicked but of
the spirit which they speak by; though carefully concealed at times, and
for many these words ring true like a bell in a church steeple.
I believe this is the intent for the migration:
There were a people grieved in spirit moved by the Spirit to find those of like mind; those who sought with their whole heart to put their
the plow as it were and never look back . A group that could find no
comfort in compromise that yearned above all things to be found in Him blameless
and working at His appearing being full of faith.
This group was heard by the Lord in their cries to Him day and night
wept for them and for their lamentations that He heard. The Lord began
to speak to them, He began to teach them and then He began to lead them
safe place and He began to give them Bread to eat and Water to drink
that they may not grow hungry and faint but that they would grow strong
planted trees giving much fruit and shade in their season. So He planted them in His garden to make both shade and bring forth fruit in due
making a place for a season that would yet come.
When the season for which the Lord had prepared had fully come a strong
came and blew against the old gardens from which His plantings had
come to Him . They were dying trees in this garden with little Water they had
leaves to protect from the sun what fruit they did bear. The Lord was
soon to call His harvesters so He was concerned about the dying trees which
had made though they refused His care, His Water and His calling to
His garden in seasons past. Soon the winds increased, the sun waxed hotter
by day and the wells became polluted and began to dry up, more and
little by little like persecution it came increasing day by day. Not
long after the trees began to whither and drop their fruit and bearing the
of having no fruit at harvest the trees began to cry to the Lord in
fear saying; wherein is the clean Water that we may drink and wherein is
shade that we may find shelter from this indignation ? The Lord said
to them; From the beginning I have known you and from the beginning I have
chosen you that you would bear fruit in your season; come also to My
there I will give you Water to drink and there I have prepared for
you shade that your fruit should not perish, there I will plant you in My garden
renown that you might live.
So the Lord rushed to bring the dying trees into His garden that He
had prepared for them in the seasons past but many of the trees refused
moved to His garden for their roots were buried deep near the wells
water, they feared their roots tearing and they had held revered places
in this garden with promises of the garden dressers that there would be
in this garden for them. So the Lord moved quickly to plant the dying
trees in His garden ; He moved quickly for the sake of all He had redeemed,
former planting and the new; side by side.
The first garden the Lord had planted was well cared for; with the trees crying for much Water and receiving it the Lord was able to prune their
dead branches without their resistance as the trees had become mature
strong having entered the garden of the Lord. Soon the Lord came with
dying trees badly burned from the persecuting winds and sun planting
them gently in the shade of His trees from seasons past. The former trees
rejoiced and repented of their sorrows borne from leaving the garden
of the past and the shade of those trees which was once their safety. The
dying trees also rejoiced in that the Lord had prepared a place for them
they had not sought one and all the trees rejoiced together as one.
after the dying trees began to flourish with Water from the Lord, leaves
quickly grew and the trees pollinated one another; both plantings receiving prunings from the Lord and bearing fruit; all the while weathering
intense winds and hot sun the dying garden was perishing from .The
garden was truly a garden of renown a planting of the Lord and the Lord was
pleased with this.
Not long afterwards the old garden began to bow down low and its fruit rotted and fell off ;now was the season of harvest . The weather became
worse and worse and the dying trees with their dressers began to curse
Lord and His garden . When the harvesters arrived they found the trees
without fruit and cursing the Lord without hesitation the harvesters
pulled up the trees by the roots and threw them into the fire. The Lords
planting had also been harvested both the former and latter plantings together as one both receiving the same reward. They rejoiced in Him
and they called Him "Lord of the Harvest" !
Story of Joseph and his brothers .
Joseph was a preserver of life that went through the land teaching everyone how to plant, harvest and store up corn. When the famine came in all
world Joseph's brothers came to Him to buy corn (word) and Joseph said
them that they would not see His face until they brought their brother Benjamin. When Benjamin returned with his brothers Jesus recognized
Benjamin; hid Himself and wept but Benjamin did not recognize Jesus
he did not reveal Himself to them. Joseph chose Benjamin who was to
"preserver of life" to his brethren but He did not reveal Himself until after He had put His cup in Benjamin's sack and that is where we are
ultimately; His cup in our sack.
Why did Joseph put the cup in Benjamin's sack?
That they might have fellowship in His suffering which they shared
of the seed which their father had sown; meaning they were brothers
of the same seed. Both of Jacob towards the brothers of his seed; and of God
towards Christ and His brethren of His seed also.
Ro:9:8: That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are
children of God: but the children of the promise are counted as the
seed.Perhaps that is hard for us to understand to a degree but if we just
that will suffice until understanding is given to us.
The very people we have been railing against; though we claim it is
system are not immune to being hurt because our intentions are to slay
a now subtle demonic influence (though its workings are increasing). Because
this we think we do justice but I beg of you to consider whether our
actions and words are conducive to the Lords calling of these whom will be
brethren to the end. As the Lords calls them we stone them and they
lie trapped in the gate of the city.Those very people we have been so viscous
regards to are the very ones God had on His heart when He called us
that gathering for preservation continues to this day but in our actions
kick against the goads and are found to be fighting God.
There is a reason why the migration is stunted and the reason is us.
We are not yet able to care for them, as we have yet to learn to plant, to
and to store. Today if the system were to go into a rush and begin
to show itself so as to be more evident to our brethren and they began to flee,
would be a short time before they too ran out of food. What food will
they be eating ? Our fruit; which is the also the Bread of Heaven and we
to possess it in regards to storing up and even greater because of
our pomp they will know our storage bins are empty before they even get the
God has not ordained His bride to produce in the world a last days group
Ishmaels but He is yearning for a fruit after his kind. There are
preparations that are ordained for us (meaning the entire body) and
the matters that are to be resolved in us are the next part of this post
The thought, searching and desparity that my next post might bring if
you decide to hear will bring us to the last post and also to where we
led. Yet it is for you to decide if this is the heart of God.
Why is He doing this ?
"To save much people alive" !
Refuse not !
We speak of IC and we speak of HC but whom among us in the same sentence
when we rail against it confess to have the mind of Christ at the end
If you haven't made that statement or ever thought it in
contemplation then I invite you to contemplate it and then check your
hearts response when you think of speaking or writing that it is the mind
in all the varied references we assign to them. Whom on the outside of both could distinguish between the two according
Does our speech in these regards bear the Testimony of the Lord Jesus
or is this also something we have learned in error?
Listen everyone if your heart condemns you when you do this or if you
have not the confidence to declare it to be the mind of Christ in regards
spirit of your speech and the substance of things which you speak of;
who has the pre-eminence among us when we carry on so ?
Jon:4:9: And God said to Jonah, Doest thou well to be angry for the
And he said, I do well to be angry, even unto death.
Jon:4:10: Then said the LORD, Thou hast had pity on the gourd, for
which thou hast not laboured, neither madest it grow; which came up
in a night, and perished in a night:
Jon:4:11: And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein
are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right
and their left hand; and also much cattle?
And should not I spare sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern
their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?
Gods heart for the IC ?(Institutional Church)
Gods heart for the HC ?(House Church)
Is there partiality in Him ?
Do we ever stop to think that according to our speech one might ascertain the grace of God ceased after He gave us the revelation of the Church
or whatever drove us out?
Did the Love and Grace of God cease after we were called out?
If not; then why dont we continue in that love seeing that it abides
to this day?
For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners
love those that love them.
About now is when the preparations for the arguments are coming in steady flow and some are beginning to burn with anger in their heart; so this
be a good time for the same to recognize something is amiss and mortar
is falling from your walls. But what is it that is shaking your walls
words to which you do not yet agree and by them alone you are moved
heart to transgression and ready with all malice to make known the
God; which your heart testifies you are yet to receive of; because
by these words you have been made to stumble. This is not the wisdom which is
above but it is what many of us including myself have falsely called
wisdom.Herein lies an example of the many places we enter folly through what
falsely call knowledge and we know it is false because we are puffed
up; that proven by the pride that has surfaced in our hearts and yet we
told that it is love that edifies. Where are our hearts ?
Many such things do we do in our lives and many such things do we perpetrate
against one another here and even elude to it being innocent debate
it out so to say but the truth being that we are yet to know the simplest
things in regards to Christ as we ought to know them; yes even the
very foundations have we forsaken for knowledge yet never coming to the
of the Truth as He said He was.
There must be a time in which these things must be revealed to the Church
it is ever to fulfill scripture, and we know it will but is this the
generation in which those things will be made known to; and will He
be fulfilled in us? If we have ears to hear it will be made known and
will take eye salve rather than offense and turn our hearts in this
generation we the Church will be made whole; but have you counted the
Brethren if indeed we had counted the cost we would not have already
spent so much in waste. Oh dont you see? Have we become so blind that we
know the glory of God from a root of bitterness and cannot discern
Do you love me Peter? He says !
For the knowledge we pursue and the contentions we enter we lose grip
hope for the fullness of Christ manifest today and all the while our
hearts have always beared witness that it is we; who are wretched, and miserable,
and poor, and blind, and naked and many have cried all the nights because
of it.This is the condition of the Church not only we who read this but
manifest in us as a whole and it brings Him sorrow because it should
We have done well to believe on Him but the time is now that we know
whom we have believed on and put down our pretenses in approaching
we may indeed be partakers of His divine nature. In spirit and in truth.
Can we bear the light ?
More than that; can we any longer bear that the light that is in us
darkness ? I cant anymore !
Hear this for the first time again;
Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of
knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss
of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,And be found
him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that
which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by
faith: That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the
fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
Look to our speech; look to our conduct and why is it so dark?
Has the love of God ceased or again I say as before : Is it the Plowman
refrains or is it him who is yoked that refuses to be led?
When will our conversation take the form of that of priests and stop
trying to compel yet another generation to be circumcised through our gospel
without love so they too may escape persecution for the sake of the
Hasn't it been enough ?
We think ourselves to be so different by virtue of the form of our fellowship and the precepts contained in them thinking they hold the
greater significance to the revelation of Christ and this is again
dare I say it; the blind leading the blind both being; even today; in a ditch.
speech is seasoned in where , how , whom is or isn't leading, meals
or wafers, central control or autonomy, ekklesia or IC, women speaking
hushed, tithe or dont tithe, trib or rapture, whore of Babylon or ignorant, pulpit or easy chair and all the while passing over love, godliness,
control, long suffering, meekness, temperance, holiness, judgment, grace, obedience, reverence,wisdom, forgiveness and above all repentance;
confessing all the while separation, election, giftings, abiding, joy,
peace and safety. We hold conferences to resolve our doctrines that we might
appear as being one and yet it is the Love of God that commands it
all and will set all things in order over His church and this we reject as
costly compromising to manufacture a form of the gospel that is in
our estimation; safely in line with scripture all because we have not the
of God in and through our lives to be seen and read of all men leaving
being poured out as living sacrifices and rather than bear the shame
of confessing we are sick and stopping everything to seek the face of
though we were one in heart; we instead fight to be a voice; and that
crying; above all else;
"We are the glorious ones" !
Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted
wisdom by reason of thy brightness.....
I shudder !
Let a man confessing godliness consider these things !
These things we lack are the very things He said we would be known
Doesnt that strike anyone as odd ?
There is a reason for it all !
Why don't we ever discuss these things ?
To The Brook Kidron !
We are not without hope and not without the long-suffering of God but
time for us to move now with Him. The discomfort many of us are experiencing
in this and past seasons is this call to move. We simply dont recognize
where we are going and we are kicking against the goads.
Let us understand what it is to truly suffer outside the gate being
unto death; lets no longer return reviling for reviling, evil for evil
but let us understand that we have an inheritance and a destiny rich in
that should encourage us to be like minded with Christ; if we would
lay hold the hope of that reward perhaps we would gain a little confidence
in the things He said we must suffer if we desire to live godly in
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth
to the end shall be saved. But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for
say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till
of man be come. The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his Lord.
It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant
as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how
more shall they call them of his household?
In this generation from whom do we believe our deeds have been hidden?
None; we have for centuries been in darkness and the fact that we are
the only ones who think this not true should tell us something about the
following words and how in truth we see and with what eyes we have
light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy
body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body
shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness,
great is that darkness! But again in this too we should have confidence
to enter through the veil not only for the forgiveness of sin but also
in our time of need which help we have if you are able to receive it.
In all these things there is a Man waiting our return to our first Love
even Him Himself and because I am confident in Him and His great love for
me I am
able to open my eyes and see what He sees in me and knowing with all assurance His desire is towards me and because it is He affords me
of the light in which I may know which way I should walk. Is it so
that I may be condemned ? Not at all; we are afforded that light that we may
walking and that walk being in Him. Who but Him knows the way to the
For this feast let us commit all our ways to Him that in His care we
found in Him; not with our own righteousness that we yet commit to
fulfillment in the letter of the Law but the righteousness which is
by faith in Christ, that faith also giving us confidence in the things
would suffer for His sake; even that suffering that we will endure
being born out of the love of God for all men which is contrary to them and
to us if we abide in Him.
There has begun to be heard a cry in the Church to know why it seems
left. That cry; coming from despair; wondering how long we would bear
sorrow and then a cry wondering for how long He could bear our same
and not be overcome with them. It is not that we have been left dead altogether but having tasted in the past pure times in Him and in gaining
understanding it would seem inevitable that we realize when we look
in the mirror that His image is not reflected back . I speak of the Church.
even with that view I am grateful and comforted knowing the same pains
felt by my brethren all over; telling me that He is still joining us together despite us; and that being evident in our shared distress
of his fullness in us both individually and as the Body.
This same group was heard by the Lord in their cries to Him day and
and He wept for them and for their lamentations that He heard.
This is the cry of the Church, of them that hunger and thirst :
Whither is thy beloved gone, O thou fairest among women? whither is
thy beloved turned aside? that we may seek him with thee.
My beloved has gone to His garden, To the beds of spices, To feed His
flockin the gardens, And to gather lilies, I am my beloved's and my beloved
mine, He feeds His flock among the lilies.
When Jesus had spoken these words, He went out with His disciples over
Brook Kidron, where there was a garden, which He and His disciples
We are here even now if we will hear that we need to cross the brook
enter the garden that we all thought we had passed through already.
The place we have been through was only the gate the city.
Only now to hear these words before crossing the brook :Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized
with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are
And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized
with the baptism that I am baptized with.And if we receive chastisement as sons and hear this call to enter
garden where He feeds us let us remember these words :Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the
and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that,
were possible, the hour might pass from him.
In these last days this is the place in which we will have fellowship
Him but let us find wisdom in Him to know that in that place we will
also the fellowship of His sufferings which is that "cup"and today
no other way and no other place in which he will be found in His fullness.
In January of this year I heard something I have read many times over
this time it was directed at me and to the Church. He said that I knew
nothing yet as I ought to know ! I am confident that we will all discover this to be true as a whole; as from January until now that word has
too true for me not to be grateful for.
This hour is near !
Bring them to my garden !
Prepare for my cup !